Palouse Empire Appaloosa Club

Year End points from Melanie S

Here are the sign ups for this year.   For the Newsletter or website.
Have received NO results, including from our club show.
 
PEAC YEAR END AWARDS - SIGNUPS FOR 2008
BREED:
MOST COLORFUL
1.
HALTER MARES
1. Lilly's Gold Bond
2. Am Advanced
HALTER GELDINGS:
1.
HUNTER IN HAND
1.
NON PRO MARES
1. Am Advanced
NON PRO GELDINGS
1.
SR. PERFORMANCE
1. Imajetalena
2. Zippacat
JR. PERFORMANCE 5 & UNDER
1. King of Broken Hearts
NON PRO PERFORMANCE
1. Jeanne Dougal - Zippacat
2. Jeanne Dougal - Imajetalena
3. Diane Neises - King of Broken Hearts
WALK-TROT 9 & UNDER
1. Caleb Heggemeier (horse SS Poltergiest)
WORLD QUALIFICATION POINTS ONLY
1. Test This Remedy
2. Absolutely High
 
OPEN:
JR HALTER 2 & UNDER
1.
SR. HALTER 3 & OVER
1.
JR. PERFORMANCE 5 & UNDER
1.
SADDLE LOG HOURS 19 & OVER
1.
OTHER THAN APPALOOSA PERFORMANCE
OTHER THAN APPALOOSA Halter

Vision Quest News

Just thought I would share a few updated pictures.  If anyone would like to see any additional pictures of any particular one, I took lots of pictures today.  This is only four of the seven foals we have.  Joey did throw a few surprises of two solid foals.  As disappointed as we are at the lack of color, both those foals are of really great quality, both representing halter and pleasure. (And for many of you who know that I distain showing a solid.......).  But that is how it goes with raising Appaloosas.
 
First one is "Sonya Dare", our fewspot filly by Joey out of David's Sophie born 4-9-08  She will be the only one not offered for sale this year as she will be a replacement for her dam.




 
Second is "King's Jubilee", a gorgeous dark bay filly with spots born 3-24-08. Jubilee has one of the smallest heads we've seen and will be heavily muscled like her dam.  She is a little over on the knees, therefore, we have set her price tag at $750.00.  If her knees get straight, she will be one tough filly to beat in the showring.

 


Third is "K.C.", a chesnut snowcap stocking colt by Joey out of Encounter This born 4-11-08.  Charlee did us very well with this colt who actually prefers people to his own dam.  He is probably our favorite and fun to take pictures of.  KC has a lot of presence that is going to stand out.
Priced at $850
 


Fourth is "Mister Reo" (Reo), a chestnut fewcap by Mister Re Skip out of Victereo's Angelique born 4-10-08.  This is a huge big bodied colt.  It's been hard to get some good pictures of him because he's always appeared sleepy and lacking pizazz, however, today he woke up out in the pasture when he got seperated from his mom.  Keep him on the edge and he'll be a real show contender.  Priced at $1500
 


Fifth is "BeBe King", a solid chestnut colt by Joey out of HER Satin Angel born 4-23-08. He should color out as he has a scalera and striped hooves.  Being that his dam is such a pretty flat mover, we had high hopes of this cross for an outstanding pleasure prospect and already at two weeks old, BB has certainly been meeting our expectations.
 
Darlene Neisess


www.visionquestappaloosa.com
Fairfield, Washington

4/18/08 Molly mule

I call her "Bill" since I called her brother "Hillary". ( half ass couple)  :-)
 
She is out of Very Hallie,  Sired by Oklahoma Howdy a mammoth jack.  She is available for $800

Roy Scoles


4/29/08 colt

"Moose"  Why? because he was big and fat at birth.  Tough delivery, but he and mom are fine.  Looks like he will be black.  White sclera - no other characteristics at this time.
 
He is out of Nemo's mother Makin Whoopi (Recognition x Andrews Shadow).. Sired by the Quarterhorse "Hollidocks Chex".

Roy Scoles


4/16/08 colt

"Elvis" is out of "Demi Smor" (The Mortgage Lifter x James Bond Daughter) and sired by "Pacific Nemo" (McDream X Makin Whoopi by Recognition).
 
Nemo is producing outstanding quality with 100 percent color from solid and minimal characteristic mares.

Roy Scoles




First Ride

Just today I was honored to give my GREAT GRANDSON his first ride.


Territory 1 Zone A Workshop Summary

Moscow, ID May 17-18, 2008

The following is a summary of the discussion from the Moscow, ID workshop. The group also enjoyed a tour of the ApHC offices led by CEO Steve Taylor and tours of the Appaloosa Museum led by George and Iola Hatley. Kevin Pullin, the ApHC trail coordinator and George and Iola also joined us for dinner and a talk on this years and past Chief Joseph Trail rides.

Our special guest on Sunday was Juli Thorsen, lifestyles editor of the “Horse & Rider” magazine and past marketing director of the ApHC.

This was a great group, representing clubs from Washington, Idaho and Saskatchewan. Ideas were also sent in from Oregon and Alberta that were discussed.

We would like to thank all who attended and took the time to send in questions or topics for discussion. A huge thank you goes to Steve Taylor and Kevin Pullen, who took the time from their own lives to help us make these workshops a success.

Sandy Jones and Lynette Thompson, Sponsors

 

 

Auxiliary registry comments: Was pointed out that this is just an idea at this stage and the people working on the idea can always use input.

Open the books to all colored appaloosa horses

Make a auxiliary registry with no cross entry into the regular registry for horses registered there, but give them all the rights of the main registry.

An auxiliary recognition registry for appaloosa colored mares only.

Auxiliary registry for colored appaloosas with only a pedigree certificate and no participation into ApHC programs.

A totally separate, self ruling registry for appaloosa colored horses who do not meet present ApHC breeding rules.

Research a true ½ breed registry for the ApHC. Could use the basic structure of the Purebred Arabian Trust as example of how this might work.

ApHC needs to ask the MEMBERSHIP what they like and dislike about this idea.

 

 

Always show a positive face to the public and stop the squabbling, especially in the barns and stands at horse shows and horse expos.

Promote the entire breed and all it‘s uses, not just specific portions.

Do person to person promotion

More personal communications between the ApHC and regional clubs and between the regional clubs and the directors.

Directors need to be more responsive to the regional clubs and to individual members.

Directors should hold idea and information exchange meetings around their zones.

Discussion on breed integrity

Cross breeding

Paint description

Genetic problems

Closing the books

Discussion on the Canadian ApHCC and the ApHC relationship that included a explanation of the Canadian Animal Registration Act. Also discussions of the IRIP program. Several questioned why the ApHC allows other countries to register Appaloosas, plus register than differently than the ApHC rules. Why not simply have regional clubs in those countries and have them obey the ApHC registration rules much as Canadian regional clubs already do. Seems sort of a double standard.

Ideas of things that regional clubs can do besides shows to help/promote themselves, their members and the Appaloosa

Scholarships

Group buying

Parades

Youth program that gives mare in foal to deserving youth

Help at therapeutic riding programs

Use regional clubs as central information distribution points

Provide speakers to other groups

Host small group clinics

Reconnect with older and past members thru social events

Regional clubs need to start networking amongst themselves to exchange ideas and information.

The regional contact person with the ApHC should be actively exchanging information with both the ApHC and their regional club members.

Regional clubs and ApHC members could offer links to each other.

Hold ApHC board of directors meetings separately from major events that some directors need to attend due to their chosen profession and that staff needs to work at. Directors need to be able to focus on their ApHC business, not on their own business at board meetings. Staff needs to attend to the business at hand.

Streamline the rule book

Associate membership without the Journal

Multi-year memberships

Send out the membership card only once and send yearly stickers instead. Make cards fancier and more like credit cards.

The ApHC board of directors needs to consider the long term effects of rule changes. Our youth will be living with these rules for a long time.

The ApHC board of directors need to learn and start using good business practices, including having 5 and 10 year business plans and going by them.

Add a horse wanted section to the ApHC website.

Reconsider the new ApHC regional club membership and reporting requirements

Have information available thru the ApHC on subjects such as how to export a horse.

The board of directors needs to look into the possibility of moving the National show every 3-5 years to different parts of the country.

Change the National show into the Non-Pro and youth world show and eliminate the open classes.

Combine the ApHC sponsored shows into one big July show and call it the World show and have Non Pro, Youth and Open classes with no qualifying.

Streamline the class list at both the World and National show.

Combine the ApHC sponsored shows into one big show and call it the World show and have Non Pro, Youth and Open classes with no qualifying. Hold this show later in the year.

Start a territorial or geographical area show system.

If the ApHC board of directors needs to raise a fee, there should be a explanation as to why included with the announcement.

Ideas that were sent in to me before the workshop and given to the CEO after a short discussion of them.

The ApHC get involved with the “Wrangler Tough Enough To Wear Pink” campaign during the World Show.

Would be in the best interests of the ApHC & its Regional clubs to relax some of the show application rules & show rules, like the AQHA has done.
examples:
1.allow class within a class
2.change or relax the mandatory classes
3.relax the # of days show application must be in prior to show date (100)
4.relax distance between shows?
5.allow specialty shows to use non ApHC judges (fee to ApHC judge may apply, i.e.
Specialty Judge permit), as long as they hold a card through the specialty
association without the need to have an ApHC judge judge with
6. Incentives from ApHC to groups, territories, etc to hold circuits or
multiple shows
7. Incentives to 4H, light horse, fairs, horse showcases to hold ApHC
shows/classes
8. relax the # of ApHC horses entered minimum requirement
9. Adjust the point structure so that it doesn't discourage entries in classes
(particularly the 4-7). Think about awarding points based on the # of horses
beaten. (Of course this will require revamping the ROM's etc., too)
10. Please, please, please ApHC consider a flat NPF structure rather than based
on classes entered.
11. Year end awards for new to show people?

 

The JC will provide a notation, sticker, something on papers that if the horse is unwanted, the breeder or some previous owner would like to get the horse back. With today’s climate of responsibility of horses you breed, do you think the ApHC would provide such a service for a nominal fee? I know I would put it on my horses papers

 

Figure out how regional clubs can work together to sponsor bigger ApHC approved shows with more judges. Maybe have these shows as a qualifier to a huge multi area show or point system recognized by the ApHC.

 

 

 


Kaye E Helton-Anderson ApHC # 795274 sent in:

I know that the Nationals/ Oklahoma/ Mississippi issue has been thoughly beaten to death... But this was before the huge fuel/hay and day to day cost of living increases. I would like to see The Nationals relocated more centrally. A lot of the ApHC trainers here in the North West West Coast have cut back on the ApHC and are turning to other breeds. A lot of ApHC exhibitors are selling their ApHC and getting other breeds so they can still ride with the same trainers.. Another thought that I had was to discontinue the ApHC Nationals, keep the Youth World Show on the same dates and then keep the ApHC World Show in FT Worth. That way there would be no need for the bigger show grounds so it could be held at other venues that could be more centrally located and then more purse money could go into the World Show.

I would also like to have the possibility of non-pro and youth leasing horses explored. USEF ( formerly AHSA ) has allowed leased horses for a very long time. Leased horses are listed in their magazine "Equestrian" and they sign paper work and the USEF collects a small fee. This can be, in my opinion a win-win for everyone... ApHC shows that they are "user friendly" to people who cannot afford to purchase a show horse, It will add money to ApHC. I think that we could get some of the other stock horse breed people into the ApHC ...

I know that there will be someone who will claim that some one will be getting a "push button horse" for nothing and will win everything... To me this is a non-issue Why should it matter if the family/non-pro bought the horse or leased it? They still have to learn how to ride it correctly.. The only difference would be the fact that money changed hands in purchasing the horse vs. leasing. If this would go through I also feel that a huge PR announcement in all of the major / regional horse magazines that are not not geared towards just the ApHC people

Here is the specs rules for leasing per USEF 2008 rule book

Chapter 11 Federation Records And Awards

Subchapter 11-C

GR1108 Lease Registration

A recorded horse must be shown under a leasee's ownership provided an official lease is registered with the Federation. For points to count with respect to any competition, such agreement and fees must be received by the Federation office on or before the first day of such competition . The leasee becomes the bona fide owner of the horse for the period of lease ( except for Owner classes) for Federation award purposes. The horse must be entered in the ownership of the leasee and must be shown in accordance with *GR 1110.

To be official, a certified copy of the lease or a lease registration form must be registered with the Federation and accompanied by a fee of a $60 fee.. The lease must contain a start and end date and be signed by the leasee and the lessor. If a lease is not renewed with-in 30 days of its expiration, a later renewal will require a $60 fee. The lease will then be effective the day the renewal is received by our office. A written statement of termination must be submitted by the leasse and the lessor if the lease is terminated before the end date stated in the lease agreement. The Federation does not accept agent signatures


 

Notes from the Territory ! Zone B Workshop

Territory 1 Zone B Workshop

Missoula, MT

April 26-27, 2008

Thank goes to all the dedicated Appaloosa people who took the time out of their busy lives to make this workshop a success. Due to various reasons, attendance was not quite as large as expected. Many clubs sent representatives who did a excellent job of conveying their views and concerns. Clubs represented were the Alberta Appaloosa Horse Association from Alberta Canada, Montana Appaloosa Club, Vigilante Appaloosa Club, Mountain Country Appaloosa Club, Western Montana Appaloosa Club, Intermountain Appaloosa Club, Dal-Worth Appaloosa Club and Palouse Empire Appaloosa Club.

Thanks also goes to Steve Taylor, CEO of the Appaloosa Horse Club and Kevin Pullin, the Appaloosa Horse Club Trail and Distance Coordinator for their attendance and participation.

Good discussions, good food and great ideas happened and we hope the success of this workshop will encourage other areas to organize a workshop of their own. They are great tools for the exchange of ideas.

Following is a summary of the discussions of member and regional club concerns and the current changing horse world challenges the ApHC and its regional club faces and some ideas of how to successfully navigate thru them.

Have the ApHC add 3 and 5 year membership

Memberships without the Journal.

Associate memberships just for specific things without voting rights.

Offer awards for ACAAP in 2 or more different divisions, all with comparable awards.

Expand the ACAAP program to include some sort of recognition for non-traditional events that offer awards and placing such as parades and non-arena type judges trail classes.

More promotion for ACAAP.

Research giving regional clubs and individual members reduced rates to buy subscriptions of the Appaloosa Journal so that they may place the Journal public venues such as schools, libraries and museums or to put in stores on a consignment basis.

The Journal should focus more on what everyday Appaloosa members do with their horses, more articles on what regional clubs do and more information each month on the different programs. Show more of the different things the members use their Appaloosas for.

Include the ACAAP newsletter in the Journal or at least have an article each month about ACAAP

Develop some sort of reply system for all correspondence received by the ApHC, whether via email, phone or regular mail.

Have the website have a page for links to different groups promoting the many diverse types of Appaloosa being bred, from foundation bred to modern breeds from trail to racing.

More information on the website about the F numbered horses and present day foundation bred horses.

Have the ApHC forward questions to regional clubs on things such as breeders of a certain type of horse or trainers in a certain area of expertise. Encourage the regional to have a contact person who has information on the members in their area in order to answer these questions that the ApHC cannot ethically answer.

The ApHC as an organization, it’s regional clubs and it’s membership need to be more proactive to industry affecting equine and agricultural issues. Land use and horse transport are just 2 examples.

The ApHC should send contact information on new members to regional clubs in the members area and also include information on the regional clubs in the area to new members.

The ApHC, regional clubs and individuals should look at joining their state and the national horse council.

The ApHC look into group liability that all clubs can buy into.

Have a more user friendly rule book.

Look into the ApHC developing their own horse show software program that regional clubs can purchase.

Concerns were expressed about regional club officers being required to be ApHC members and regional clubs needing to give the ApHC a financial report.

Directors need better communications with members and keep them more up to date on ApHC matters.

Encourage regional clubs to have awards for saddle log hours and other goal oriented awards that are non horse show related.

Develop an on line suggestion box and maybe offer a suggestion of the month prize.

The ApHC, regional clubs and individual members need to remember that not all members use the internet and keep other lines of communication open with members also. Suggested having regional calling trees and good newsletters.

Regional clubs could provide information about local Appaloosa breeders and the Appaloosa in general for local welcome packets given by realtor’s when someone purchases a home in the area.

Utilizing YouTube as an advertising tool along with your traditional forms of advertising.

Regional clubs need to be sure and do all the little things that make people feel welcome at your events and always be positive in their attitude and leave the negativity at home.

Ideas for shows: BBQ’s for exhibitors and staff, welcome wagon at barns when exhibitors arrive to show them their stalls, answer any questions they have, offer snacks, coffee and water and generally provide them with a positive first look at your show.

Always present a positive attitude to the public and leave the controversy and negativity at home.

Regional clubs can make a list of organizations their members belong to and then work with those groups not only to help them, but to promote the Appaloosa.

Provide educational opportunities for the public outside of organized horse expos. Examples-- do a horse safety demonstration for a group using Appaloosas, have a booth at your local farmers market with Appaloosa information and a live horse if possible.

Organize a local horse club day for all breeds at a local feed store or some large parking lot with much public exposure.

Regional clubs could organize a youth royalty program to attract youth to their club and to attract publicity.

Offer local show circuits, could be open, breed, breed/combo or combined with other breeds.

Combine events with other groups to defray costs and work. Offer your clubs help at their show in exchange for their work at your show.

Private treaty all breed sales that offer test rides, veterinarians on site for inspections and a short presentation of sale horses. Might combine with a stallion presentation.

Include 4-H and FFA classes in your events.

Do not skimp on advertising as it makes you look successful and tells the public that you are still viable.

Always present a professional and successful look. Presentation is very important to success.

Regional clubs could look into group purchasing of feeds, hay, tack, supplements, etc.

Focus on many small local things rather than large regional things.

Look into multi-regional club sponsored large events.

Sponsor a 4-H/FFA horse judging contest using all Appaloosas.

Many marketing ideas were talked about.

Affordability not only in purchasing, but in many phases of Appaloosadom as compared to other breeds; Color, both loud and non; Grandparents; Non-pros; Youth

I am sure there were some things that I missed, if so please contact any of us with them.

Jan Phillips, organizer, Territory 1 Zone B workshop

Sandra Jones and Lynette Thompson, committee members

Lynette Thompson's report on BOD meeting in Albuquerque, NM

Sheree,
Here is a really quick rundown of the things voted on at the BOD meeting in Albuquerque. Several other things were discussed, but these were the things voted on.
I may very well have missed something in my notes, they are spread over about 10 different pages.
 
There are also several rundowns on the meeting on the appaloosablogspot.com Also on the blog is how the national point money is used.
Lynette
 
Any actual rule changes will have to be voted on a second time in July. Policy changes are effective immediately
 
Passed the no line up under each judge for open classes at this years
nationals. They will just pull in the top, I think they said 15, and
place those. Trail only for 1 year then decide if this works.

They will study how to change World Qualifying points with some sort of
formula that they will come up with.

The ApHC will join the Unwanted Horse Coalition when they find the spare
money.

The ApHC will develope a Foundation for accepting and utilizing
donations, sort of like the AQHA Foundation.

Canadian registration window opens for 1 year beginning July 1

They will try and make a breed standard

ACAAP enrollments at shows passed

Study of ACAAP Premium awards passed

Non pro age groups being realigned to 19-44 and 45 and over plus 19 and
over

Mexico club in IRIP

Wording changed on the South African IRIP to main registry from registry
proper.

FPD goes to 77% next year and then stays for 10 years then goes up 1
horse every 10 years

1/2 Arab-1/2 QH crosses and 1/2 Arab-1/2 TB crosses registered with the Arabian Horse Club and with varified bloodlines being added as approved cross was voted down

ApHC to ApHC excessive white horses will NOT be registered

Approved Omperazole and Equioxx ( a proposal to take Lasix from the approved list was voted down in committee and never made the whole BOD meeting.

I can only hope that I got the next several right. These were being rewritten by the lawyer as they were discussed. All had been presented as one rule change and were actually several.

1. Negative SCID tests for Arabian stallions and mares was withdrawn

2. All AQHA registered Stallions and Mares that have the following or
similar notations on their registration papers: "This horse has white
markings designated under AQHA rules as an undesirable trait and
uncharacteristic of the breed", are ineligible as a parent under this
rule. Passed

3. A very convaluted rule that would basically have not allowed excess
white in Arab and TB breeding stock. failed.

4. All foals born from AQHA registered stallions or mares, registered as
descendants of Impressive AQHA# 0767246, born after Jan 1, 2007, that
have HYPP status of N/H or H/H will be required to be tested for HYPP at
the same time they are parentage verified and to have their HYPP status
marked on their registration papers. Future descendants of these horses
will also be required to be HYPP tested and parentage verified and have
the status designated on their papers. Passed


The presenters of the Auxiliary registration proposals are to continue
their research and develope rules, potential participation levels, costs
vs return, and suggest implimentation schedule with staff assistance as
resources permit, and to bring specific information and structure
recommendations back to the BOD. Passed

Putting world, national champs and reserve on papers for $100 passed

Museum lease extended for 5 years and lease of horse pasture added to building lease.

APEX adds $40,000 to those events for visibly colored registered Appaloosa horses. This will be effective from now till the program expires in 2010. Passed

Rob & Kathy Hodl




Rio by Secured Interest (AQHA) out of Sheza Jade--Is this enough color?

Gramp's Appaloosas




Just born yesterday morning.  He is out of Demi Smor (The Mortgage Lifter X James Bond Daughter).
His sire is Pacific Nemo (McDream X Recognition daughter).
 
This dark bay mare had never produced color until last year , and this, when bred to Nemo.
Looks like Nemo  is a very strong color producer. 
 
Roy W. Scoles
1250 West Hatter Creek Road
Princeton, Idaho  83857
www.grampsappaloosas.com

Talea Morgan & Smart Little Sign

                      

Talea Morgan and her Appaloosa stallion, Smart Little Sign, have been selected to compete in Craig Cameron's Extreme Cowboy Race at the Northwest Horse Fair & Expo at the Linn Co. Fair & Expo Center in Albany, OR.  Their date to compete is Thursday, March 27th with finals on Sunday, March 30th.  Talea is both excited and honored to represent the Appaloosa breed in this high profile competition.  She is a horse trainer and produces a limited number of Appaloosa foals each year.  Smart Little Sign is a son of High Sign Nugget and out of a daughter of Ima Little Lena.  His excellent trainability, athletic ability, and huge heart make every day on his back a truly great one!
 
 
I'd also like to congratulate one of our newest members, Luanne Cranefield, on her purchase of Bart's Quincy T, my red roan daughter of Mighty Black Bart.  Her granddaughter will ride "Quincy" when she visits and Luanne will cross her with her beautiful black and white stallion, a son of I'm So Hot I'm Cool.  Quincy is currently in foal to Dream's Reward.

Talea Morgan